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Reguile

Don't worry though, I've caught people citing a different DID researcher who was convincing people they were baby eating satanists. This is less bad because that guy got caught in the 80s - if you ever see a NYT article on DID or a claim that alters have different allergies, they come from that guy. Mr Braun

wait so some dood made up the whole thing about alters having different allergies?

The braun guy was reporting lots of fake stuff. It could have been real, but same deal, have extreme skepticism until it's reproduced

7:48 PM

And given it's still being cited and from the 80s.... I'm leaning yes

aw man. ive heard of the allergy thing and actually believed it :/ what a shame.

holomaniac

aw man. ive heard of the allergy thing and actually believed it :/ what a shame.

Allergies are phisical reactions of your body to an allergen.

tru tru. but the brain is a powerful thing, esp since DID is literally a thing, so i thought even that could be true haha

You could technically believe yourself into having an "allergic" reaction to smelling a specific flower. And different alters could have different of these believes, but this is just 2 really unlikely things combined. There is nothing that shows that alters have more of these kinds of believes than singlets do.

https://discordapp.com/channels/@me/1075103072780570844/1075103083396341901 got a message from this guy that's supposedly a researcher

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Dear glitchthe3rd: Sorry to ask you through Direct Message (I don't know if this is the right way to do it). My name is Carlos Sánchez; I'm a Spanish professor and researcher on Antiquity and its reception on contemporary culture. Currently I'm researching how tulpamancy relates to philosophical and religious movements of Antiquity, mainly Hermetism. I have noted that several users draw connections to these and other related currents linked to Western Esotericism, and I wanted to ask you if it would be ok to ask them if I can quote some of their comments for my research. I would be quoting some comments in this and probably other chanels such as metaphysics. As I said, my only interest is in the perceived relationship between tulpamancy and Western Esotericism. Of course, I would also ask them if it's ok with them. I don’t know if I should also ask the Patrons of the other channels for permission too. Thank you so much in advance for your help.

5:31 PM

in case the link is broken

Find the old Google archives of message boards, there's a lot of good archives in there if you search tulpa of the occult style stuff being discussed by people

glitchthe3rd

Dear glitchthe3rd: Sorry to ask you through Direct Message (I don't know if this is the right way to do it). My name is Carlos Sánchez; I'm a Spanish professor and researcher on Antiquity and its reception on contemporary culture. Currently I'm researching how tulpamancy relates to philosophical and religious movements of Antiquity, mainly Hermetism. I have noted that several users draw connections to these and other related currents linked to Western Esotericism, and I wanted to ask you if it would be ok to ask them if I can quote some of their comments for my research. I would be quoting some comments in this and probably other chanels such as metaphysics. As I said, my only interest is in the perceived relationship between tulpamancy and Western Esotericism. Of course, I would also ask them if it's ok with them. I don’t know if I should also ask the Patrons of the other channels for permission too. Thank you so much in advance for your help.

Yes, my main focus is on the reception of Ancient Esotericism (mainly Hermetism) nowadays, and right now I'm working on if there is a perceived relationship between currents such as Hermetism or Gnosticism and tulpamancy

Reguile

Find the old Google archives of message boards, there's a lot of good archives in there if you search tulpa of the occult style stuff being discussed by people

Thank you so much! I will look for it

This is for tulpas

5:23 PM

Also don’t feed animals literal shit

This is tulpa research

5:44 PM

That has nothing to do with tulpas

i think you are asking very interesting questions that in my opinion more people should consider… looking forward for your paper!

Also don’t feed animals literal shit

@Rusty - jump What the hell happened here

how do you make a general finding

Hello can someone give me advice regarding a research? So, we are conducting a correlational study with 4 point likert scale method as its research instrument. Can we have 3 statistical treatment? One for pearson correlation to find the relationship, second is weighted mean for likert scale interpretation, and third is frequency and percentage distribution to quantify the demographics of the respondents. Also, if we used the weighted mean on the likert scale interpretation, what would be the interval of it? 0.75? Can you help me find the author of it if possible hehe thanks in advance!

that's not channel for this but sure let me reply lol yes it possible to use multiple statistical treatments in a correlation stufy with 4-point likert scale method as the research instrument, pearson correlation is a suitable treatment to determine the relationship between variables, weighted mean is an appropriate method for interpreting likert scale data, and frequency and percentage distribution can be used to quantify the demographics of respondents BUT, it's important to keep in mind that the statistical treatments used should be aligned with the research questions and objectives, and not just included for the sake of using multiple methods about the interval of weighted mean on a Likert scale interpretation, the possible range of the weighted mean depends on the number of points in the likert scale. For example, in a 4-point Likert scale, the weighted mean can range from 1 to 4, with increments of 0.25 (e.g., 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2, and so on). regarding finding the author of the weighted mean method, it is a widely used statistical method and not attributed to a single author lol. the concept of weighted mean is commonly used in statistics and mathematics, so it may be difficult to pinpoint a specific author who introduced the method in the context of likert scales. not sure why you would need that either!

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

that's not channel for this but sure let me reply lol yes it possible to use multiple statistical treatments in a correlation stufy with 4-point likert scale method as the research instrument, pearson correlation is a suitable treatment to determine the relationship between variables, weighted mean is an appropriate method for interpreting likert scale data, and frequency and percentage distribution can be used to quantify the demographics of respondents BUT, it's important to keep in mind that the statistical treatments used should be aligned with the research questions and objectives, and not just included for the sake of using multiple methods about the interval of weighted mean on a Likert scale interpretation, the possible range of the weighted mean depends on the number of points in the likert scale. For example, in a 4-point Likert scale, the weighted mean can range from 1 to 4, with increments of 0.25 (e.g., 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2, and so on). regarding finding the author of the weighted mean method, it is a widely used statistical method and not attributed to a single author lol. the concept of weighted mean is commonly used in statistics and mathematics, so it may be difficult to pinpoint a specific author who introduced the method in the context of likert scales. not sure why you would need that either!

Oh sorry for asking in a different channel. Also, thank you so much for the response! I will apply this on our research omg I can finally move on from finding the author, i was slowly losing my mind lmao so that's the reason i can't pinpoint them because it is really impossible

I will align them (the statistical treatment) as well as i can within our study. Thanks again I am now enlightened for real! You're a kind soul, have a great day/night

no worries, good luck!

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will do my best thankies!! ❤️ ❤️

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

that's not channel for this but sure let me reply lol yes it possible to use multiple statistical treatments in a correlation stufy with 4-point likert scale method as the research instrument, pearson correlation is a suitable treatment to determine the relationship between variables, weighted mean is an appropriate method for interpreting likert scale data, and frequency and percentage distribution can be used to quantify the demographics of respondents BUT, it's important to keep in mind that the statistical treatments used should be aligned with the research questions and objectives, and not just included for the sake of using multiple methods about the interval of weighted mean on a Likert scale interpretation, the possible range of the weighted mean depends on the number of points in the likert scale. For example, in a 4-point Likert scale, the weighted mean can range from 1 to 4, with increments of 0.25 (e.g., 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2, and so on). regarding finding the author of the weighted mean method, it is a widely used statistical method and not attributed to a single author lol. the concept of weighted mean is commonly used in statistics and mathematics, so it may be difficult to pinpoint a specific author who introduced the method in the context of likert scales. not sure why you would need that either!

Since when are you a statistician kitkat?

https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/49/Supplement_1/S3/7058004?login=false#google_vignette I think you all would enjoy reading this. It's been a fun topic to discuss over in TCen and on reddit and tumblr

Learning to Discern the Voices of Gods, Spirits, Tulpas, and the Dead

Abstract. There are communities in which hearing voices frequently is common and expected, and in which participants are not expected to have a need for care. T

tulpas = schizophrenia confirmed?

I knew that 80% i got on a schizophrenia test meant something!

did you cheat on that test

How do you cheat on a psychiatric test

12:01 AM

Like give the wrong answers ig

Eat the test when the proctor isn’t looking.

True

Smash my head against the test ez 100%

Steal the answer sheet

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jonah gets it

What about using my own complex language to write answers in a special order that only i see, and on top lf that make a custom morse code to also be able to write just dots.

12:18 AM

Only part i havent done yet lf that is the morse code one

Write the symptoms of schizophrenia on the label of bottled water

12:19 AM

Apparently someone must have done that because we aren’t allowed labels on our water bottles in tests

My teacher even lets me have a lucky card, he does check it tho

What about using my own complex language to write answers in a special order that only i see, and on top lf that make a custom morse code to also be able to write just dots.

@~Moonlight~ - jump perfection

12:34 AM

also sign it as “you are not my dad!!”

But what if he is my dad

even better

Jonah 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0

Steal the answer sheet

Then choose maximum schizofrenia

~Moonlight~

My teacher even lets me have a lucky card, he does check it tho

I used to cheat by writing memorization stuff with pen literally in my hand on plain sight and going to the tests full confidence. They never catched me. I used my hand as agenda to write the homewoerks for tomorrow on class (i cant avoid seeing it), so i always had it scribbled.

6:26 AM

Luckyly in schizofrenia test you dont even need that, you just need to hallucinate the cheat sheet.

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6:26 AM

Having read that article one thing I noted was how the other groups often made use of "grand rituals" in their methodology something I don't think is much used for tulpas(though there are no doubt exceptions). It makes me wonder if there aren't more active and elaborate ways you could go about forcing and inducing emotional stimuli as aid and if it could be effective

That would probably tie into self hypnosis and chaos magick, which both cross into the realm of tulpamancy at various points. With tulpamancy originally spawning from occultism which drew ideas from explorers in Tibet who observed Buddhist thoughtform traditions, it makes sense ritual would be an option for getting those results. (edited)

Hi, does anyone have any information on tulpomancers who have had MRI/FMRI scans or EEG scans? Better later than 2016. Results, tables, data, videos - anything (edited)

What comes to mind is the Stanford tulpamancy studies conducted in roughly 2019ish. I recommend going on r/tulpas and inputting "stanford" into the search bar, since it pulls up relevant results, but here are two personal accounts from two different redditors involved. Not sure if you're looking for that, though, since your examples seem to be more analytical in nature, but hope it helps. https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/cpqqg8/stanford_tulpa_study_my_experience_and_looking/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/syuvg4/i_participated_in_the_tulpa_stanford_study_ama/

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4:40 AM

Also, be aware that last I checked, this study has been placed on an indefinite hiatus due to 2020's COVID-19 restrictions in the United States.

Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

What comes to mind is the Stanford tulpamancy studies conducted in roughly 2019ish. I recommend going on r/tulpas and inputting "stanford" into the search bar, since it pulls up relevant results, but here are two personal accounts from two different redditors involved. Not sure if you're looking for that, though, since your examples seem to be more analytical in nature, but hope it helps. https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/cpqqg8/stanford_tulpa_study_my_experience_and_looking/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/syuvg4/i_participated_in_the_tulpa_stanford_study_ama/

Thanks!

No problem, sorry I couldn't find more information, this is the only "big" study I could remember off the top of my head.

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Actually, I'm the last test subject they took. The study should be wrapped up by now.

According to people on Reddittulpas it's been wrapped up for a while and they're currently just analyzing the data and making final conclusions

It was 2019?

I already knew that ;_;

2:51 AM

And I also know that they are having trouble because the data is inconsistent ;_;

2:51 AM

So maybe ETA 2024 ;_;

And I also know that they are having trouble because the data is inconsistent ;_;

@A long kiss goodnight - jump wow it’s as if it’s all subjective and made up at it’s core

Very true, but I don't know what they mean by "inconsistent" so I'm disappointed

Sounds like maybe they didn’t have a very streamlined way of collecting data?

May I ask who told you the results were currently inconsistent?

tbf i didn’t care about this study but if there are inconsistencies in the results that made me interested in it

It's not too surprising if things are inconsistent. People have such different approaches and experiences, on top of each brain probably handling things in different ways even if the result is similar.

Astra 🕯

May I ask who told you the results were currently inconsistent?

2:04 PM

This was in #RedditTulpas

Pinning whatever this phenomena is will likely be just as hard as solving the mystery of consciousness in the brain.

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@A long kiss goodnight - jump they will basically rediscover my exp2exp approach, they should have just asked me, not spent so much money on mri scans

3:17 PM

a lot of people in the community treat tulpamancy like it’s one thing, that there is right or wrong way of soing things, it it’s not

3:18 PM

they should have done it with gateway systems etc

Well that's a little more specific than just inconsistent. They have something but just couldn't identify it well at the time of that post.

you underestimate my capacity for cognitive bias

I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed, this is a preliminary study after all. I just hope that it's sound enough other scientists are motivated to investigate

That doesnt say that the data is inconsistent. Just that their analysis are flawed.

6:49 PM

Or that their interpretation of their analysis is a bit more generous than it should.

inconsistency is third hand information, impossible to have any meaningful opinion about it. ever played telephone game?

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

inconsistency is third hand information, impossible to have any meaningful opinion about it. ever played telephone game?

Yep, i know what you mean...

that’s good because i didn’t know what i meant… but now I understood it from you, a second hand understanding!

Probably means a completely different thing now

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I am kinda pleased by the results being inconsistent. It lines up with my own hypothesis that a tulpa has a wider all brain impact and totally changes how you think rather than a more narrow specific part impact also inconsistent changes would line up with people being different and thinking differently... OF course it could be some totally other type of inconsistency as well as full brain impacts would be a consistent results?... Actually I just don't know XD I hope they release more raw data for me to look at since that interests me waaay more than any conclusions they make up of it.

I'm content to wait until the actual results come in than worry about it too much. Current estimates should have it coming out between this summer and early next year

i see around zero people here that are worried on any level

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

i see around zero people here that are worried on any level

OH NO?!?! INCONSISTENT RESULTS NOOOO! TULPAS ARE NOT REAL!!! WHAAAAAAT NOOOOOO